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𝙂𝙊𝙊𝘿 𝘾𝙄𝙏𝙄𝙕𝙀𝙉's avatar

O'brien should know that REAL Marxism has never been tried before. My queer studies professor told me so. When we do it after the coming revolution, we'll do it right this time. (raises fist. pretends to be handcuffed.)

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I think O'Brien gives old Karl more credit than Karl is due. Marx was a shallow third rate materialist socio-philosopher. His appeal is to similar shallow "thinkers".

I think O'Brien sums it up best when he wrote:

"blind focus on the material world is a binding to disappointment. This fits in well as a contrast to the Biblical idea that “man does not live on bread alone”. Man must reject his self-convinced binding to the material nature ‘of things’, and accept that there are higher ideas that exist both beyond the individual and society. I believe that through the discovery of these ideas comes a clarity that cannot be found in materialistic doctrines such as Marxism".

As to the comparison to gnostics I think that is way off. Gnosticism is not one shared common belief. There was quite a bit of diversity. The concept of god being evil was not that God is evil but rather the false god of the material world (or I should say imagined material world) ...the demiurge was the baddie. And very similar to what O'Brien says .....man must reject his self convinced binding to the demiurge and accept Something Higher.

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